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 Post subject: Re: Gluing in frets
PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2015 7:34 am 
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Michael.N. wrote:
Yes, basically that's no different to cutting a slightly wider slot and gluing them in. The difference is that you are reducing the barbs in relation to the saw kerf whilst I am widening the saw kerf in relation to the barbs. I use Fish glue, you use HHG. The Fish held the fret a little better in my tests but HHG certainly worked.
Your experience with the Mandolin was similar to my experience with early romantic guitars. Except I had the fretboard splitting at the very last fret (fretting on the Guitar). They are very thin Ebony fretboards, much thinner than your average Guitar. Fretting off the guitar just results in a huge back bow and a board that distorts across it's width.
The idea of using a slightly wider slot and gluing them in was an obvious potential solution. A few tests later and I needed no other form of encouragement.
That's the beauty of making different types of instruments. You hit different problems and have to come up with different solutions.
I agree that the result is the same. The fret should fit the slot. It is only a mater of preference if you alter the slot or the fret. In my case I have a device that can help me file down the frets accurately and quite quickly. I posted a pic of my fret filing rig so other folks could make one. I made mine in less than an hour. For me to cut 22 slots a little wider on every mando I make would be ok but slower for me. It also seems if you mess up some fret wire it is no big deal but if you mess up a fret slot that might be a problem. It is just a couple of ways to do the same job and as it is with many things to each their own. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Gluing in frets
PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2015 8:36 am 
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"the kerf is as near as I can measure 0.6mm (0.024'') but the fretwire I have seems very tight and fights to go in the slot, if it goes at all.
On second thoughts, maybe it is slightly under - I tried putting a sliver of 0.6mm veneer into the slot and that didn't quite fit."

If it is an inexpensive saw you might try bending the teeth a little bit, as I mentioned, to add a little more set and increase the kerf, If you over bend them slightly you can true them up by running a file along the side, similar to what was mentioned for narrowing the kerf on a saw with too much set.
As was also mentioned running a triangular file along the top of the fret slot to ease the edge, and using glue as a lubricant can also make fretting easier.


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